Saturday, April 22, 2006

The Euston Manifesto

There are not many things liberal that I seem to agree with, but some libs in the UK have put together something pretty interesting, namely The Euston Manifesto . There are many liberal signatories to this manifesto, a word that is a dead give away for the left, who robustly calls for liberal minded people to seperate themselves from leftists. As my blog is dedicated to helping out those Jeremiahs crying out in a sea of leftism, why not help liberals who fit that definition?

There are three portions that really resonate with me:

Second paragraph-"No apology for tyranny."
We decline to make excuses for, to indulgently "understand", reactionary regimes and movements for which democracy is a hated enemy — regimes that oppress their own peoples and movements that aspire to do so. We draw a firm line between ourselves and those left-liberal voices today quick to offer an apologetic explanation for such political forces."

Sixth paragraph-"Opposing anti-Americanism. "
We reject without qualification the anti-Americanism now infecting so much left-liberal (and some conservative) thinking. This is not a case of seeing the US as a model society. We are aware of its problems and failings. But these are shared in some degree with all of the developed world. The United States of America is a great country and nation. It is the home of a strong democracy with a noble tradition behind it and lasting constitutional and social achievements to its name. Its peoples have produced a vibrant culture that is the pleasure, the source-book and the envy of millions. That US foreign policy has often opposed progressive movements and governments and supported regressive and authoritarian ones does not justify generalized prejudice against either the country or its people."

I'm thrilled that someone on the left and in the United Kindom finally said that! Bravo!

And lastly- "We repudiate the way of thinking according to which the events of September 11, 2001 were America's deserved comeuppance, or "understandable" in the light of legitimate grievances resulting from US foreign policy. What was done on that day was an act of mass murder, motivated by odious fundamentalist beliefs and redeemed by nothing whatsoever. No evasive formula can hide that."

With all that being said, I think that these are liberals I could do business with, to paraphrase Thatcher.

As I said, I don't agree with all of it, but I think it charts an interesting course for all of us who are(small d) democrats and who oppose leftists.


At 8:10 AM, Blogger Alan_McDonald said...


Many thanks for this link. I've downloaded the Manifesto and read through the Statement of Principles. At first blush, I agee with all of them.

At 4:39 PM, Blogger Chas said...

I had you in mind Alan. Like I said a good bit of it I agree with. It gets a little dicey for a conservative when they get into going against big business ect. However, i'm glad someone of a liberal mind wants to return to FDR or John kennedy liberalism, strong on defense and being for your country. I can't have conversations with those about the best way to help the poor if they're wearing a Che t-shirt and rooting for the Taliban!

At 5:06 PM, Blogger DV said...

It's OK - not great but OK. Have you seen the venom THEY have attracted from their comrades on the hard left? Nasty indeed. I wish them well, though they are misguided in several areas. It is a positive development.

At 5:39 PM, Blogger Chas said...

David, yes I think it's a step in the right direction. I haven't seen what the hard left has said about them, but in my experience in reading hard left sites such as Daily Kos, there is no sin as unforgivable as being an apostate!
maybe you could blog about it on ATW?

At 6:38 PM, Blogger Alan_McDonald said...

hard left sites such as Daily Kos
more Comedy Central, right?
I might go so far as to call them progressive Democrats (a la Russ Feingold) but "hard left" is way off the mark.

At 6:56 PM, Blogger Alan_McDonald said...

BTW, Chas,
Have you seen Yasser's latest post, All of us are responsible to prevent a new war? I think he's asking us not to bomb his country. He says he's been through that before.

At 7:04 PM, Blogger Chas said...

Alan, you gotta be kidding about Daily Kos! The kossacks are the angriest set of people on the planet, since 2000 anyway. And yes, I saw Yassers post whick was really good, but I was at work and wanted to give a measured response.

At 7:55 PM, Blogger Alan_McDonald said...

angriest set of people on the planet, since 2000

Seeking out reasonable debate and then descending into hyperbole is counterproductive. As regards the Euston Manifesto, your categorization of Daily Kos also violates the spirit of principle #3 (which I paraphrase):
We reject the double standard which finds angry attacks on the Bush administration that are closer to home more deplorable than other attacks that are flagrantly worse.

At 9:04 PM, Blogger Chas said...

Ah Alan, methinks you have posted on Kos! Actually, as I have googled about opposition to Euston, I find the kossacks downright reasonable. As to hyperbole, why old friend, that's my stock in trade.

At 9:29 PM, Blogger Alan_McDonald said...

Is that the generic name for Viagra?

At 3:10 PM, Blogger Alison said...

So glad you picked up on this Chas. Ive been arguing elsewhere about this manifesto and the free speech movement generated on the left. Its well charted in the media now too. I think its excellent the left are breaking away. Again! Of course they actually do something pro active. Thats the thing.

At 3:13 PM, Blogger Alison said...

oh and they are interventionist also.


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